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Title: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Magnavoxland on July 13, 2016, 06:17:31 PM
Guys, I just purchased this fabulous early 1960s RCA PS-16 console, and will be making a trip to Milwaukee within the next 10 days to get it.  It is undoubtedly one of the most potent consoles RCA Victor ever made.  The amplifier has 11 tubes, and there is also a two tube preamp above the amp.  This is a three channel stereo with a dedicated center channel for bass, and a pair of "rocket" speakers for mid's and treble, which also provide terrific stereo separation.  The amplifier and pre-amp have a 5-AS4-A rectifier, six 6BQ5 outputs in push-pull, and a total of six 6CG7 preamp tubes.

I've been wanting this set for a long time, and this one is in pristine condition.  It was owned by a 93 year old woman who obviously really took great care of her console.  The cabinet is solid walnut, with no photo-finish anywhere.  Even the inside of the record playing compartment is walnut veneer. 

The picture of the amp is one I borrowed from ARF.  My set will have a back cover on it.
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Harbourmaster on July 13, 2016, 07:52:50 PM
WOW!  Park that in the garage with a 50's Chrysler or Cadillac and it would be right at home with those fins!


I think you STOLE that console at $500 Larry!!
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Magnavoxland on July 13, 2016, 07:58:41 PM
WOW!  Park that in the garage with a 50's Chrysler or Cadillac and it would be right at home with those fins!


I think you STOLE that console at $500 Larry!!
I think I did too.  The last one on eBay in this condition was 3-4 years ago in Ft. Wayne, Indiana, and it sold for slightly over $1,000.
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Magnavoxland on July 15, 2016, 03:29:58 AM
Here's the one that I came close to getting three or so years ago.  I wanted this one badly, and got sucked into a bidding war for it.  The high bid was about $500 with 15 minutes left in the auction.  I threw out a $900 bid, figuring I would get it for $550-$600.  The last few minutes several others began bidding, and I was the high bidder at $900 with one minute left.  I was scared to death that I'd have to pay that for it.  Then, in the closing seconds of the auction, two other bidders outbid me and it sold for slightly over $1,000.
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: electra225 on July 15, 2016, 10:18:36 PM
RCA?    ;)
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Finlandia on July 16, 2016, 12:24:34 AM
Nice score Larry I saw the seller kept dropping the price from the starting $1699. Should the economy get better to where people start buying what they want instead of what they need it will only go up in value. My guess is not to many of that model have survived complete, I have the factory RCA manual for it if your interested.
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Magnavoxland on July 16, 2016, 12:29:42 AM
RCA?    ;)
Gotta mix 'um up.  I don't think I would want everything to be Magnavox.   :-\   But I've been wanting this particular RCA for a long time. 
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: electra225 on July 16, 2016, 07:39:18 AM
Yeah, I guess I can overlook it just this once.   ;)

I'll have to admit that I SERIOUSLY considered an RCA "Home Theater" in Tulsa awhile back.  I may have posted pictures of it.  The only thing that saved me was that the stereo was solid state. 
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Magnavoxland on July 16, 2016, 12:42:52 PM
Yeah, I guess I can overlook it just this once.   ;)

I'll have to admit that I SERIOUSLY considered an RCA "Home Theater" in Tulsa awhile back.  I may have posted pictures of it.  The only thing that saved me was that the stereo was solid state.
I've wondered if you would consider an RCA stereo theatre.  RCA made some really nice ones, but I think they were all New Vistas, which are solid state.  I'm not aware of any RCA stereo theatres made with tubes.
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Post by: picard on July 18, 2016, 01:47:13 PM
Very Nice.
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Bill on July 20, 2016, 08:35:14 PM
I'm jealous Larry, and with all that power it should rock!

Bill
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Magnavoxland on July 21, 2016, 01:29:57 AM
Just arrived back home at midnight tonight with the RCA.  I left here Tuesday morning at 6 a.m., spent the night in Bloomington-Normal, Illinois, then made the trip to Milwaukee this morning to pick it up in West Allis, Wisconsin.  Left West Allis at about 11:30 a.m., and arrived in Little Rock shortly after midnight tonight.  I didn't let any grass grow under my feet on the interstates. 

Will find a buddy tomorrow to help unload it.  The main console is heavier than you might think. The set looks really good, but it needs a tiny bit of TLC here and there to really make it first class.  The brass leg feet on the rocket speaker stands are tarnished, the brass carrying handles on top of each speaker are tarnished, there is a small water mark on the top of the lid, and there's 3-4 small black spots on the grill cloth.  It will look like a million bucks when it's all shined up.

 
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Magnavoxland on July 22, 2016, 06:11:48 AM
Since getting back, I have cleaned up the amplifier, replaced 14 wax caps underneath, cleaned the amplifier compartment in the cabinet, and ordered a new needle and new idler from Gary at VM.  Today I plan on replacing the electrolytics.

I still have to recap the pre-amplifier, clean the knobs and control panel plate.  Hopefully I will have the electronics done by the end of the weekend. Here's the amp all cleaned up.
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Post by: Consoleman on July 22, 2016, 06:57:53 AM
5...4...3...2...1...
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Motorola Minion on July 22, 2016, 08:43:02 AM
That's one atomic amp chassis there - drool.
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Magnavoxland on July 22, 2016, 11:07:38 PM
Today's project turned out to be restoration of the pre-amplifier.  I replaced the 8 wax caps and two electrolytics in it, checked resistors, sprayed out all the controls, installed two new #47 bulbs, cleaned and tested the two 6CG7 tubes, and cleaned the control panel plate and knobs.  I just got it reinstalled in the cabinet.
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: AlexanderMartin on July 23, 2016, 07:58:13 AM
Good eye on checking resistors in the preamp, as drifting resistors in the tone circuits can cause some issues with the controls working as they should.
Looks like an excellent buy and thread we got here, keep it up Larry! How different is that changer to say an RP-205?
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Magnavoxland on July 23, 2016, 09:43:38 AM
Underneath, the changer is very similar to an RP-205.  The slide is different, and so is the spindle, but that's about it.  Every other part looks just like an RP-205.  Of course, the top of the changer is quite different. This one is an RP-211.
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Magnavoxland on July 23, 2016, 05:32:16 PM
Today I installed the electrolytics in the amp, reinstalled the amp in the cabinet, hooked everything up and took her for a test spin.  Wow, the sound is awesome.  The bass does INDEED rattle the floor joists.  Only one problem... the changer won't cycle... so gotta look into fixing that.

I love a good light show.
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Magnavoxland on July 24, 2016, 02:17:38 PM
Horray, it is now cycling and changing records.  Motor wiring was binding on the end of the main slide.  Easy fix.  I also added a third platter washer to raise the platter just a tad as the bottom of records were dragging on the 45 adapter in the spindle well.
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Magnavoxland on July 24, 2016, 04:24:49 PM
I moved it to a nice spot in the corner of the living room.  Not the stereo separation one might want, but I like the rocket speakers close to the main cabinet.  If you noticed, even the main cabinet has "rocket" legs.  I wasn't about to hide this fabulous set in my back bedroom! This thing is a show piece.

I'll be pulling the changer again tomorrow to install a new idler and new diamond needle in the cartridge.  I never trust needles in sets that I acquire, since you never know what condition the stylus is in.  Always a good policy to just replace the needle, as long as the cartridge is good.
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Magnavoxland on July 24, 2016, 07:32:27 PM
This one has the wide mount RCA stereo cartridge that uses an "airplane" needle assembly.
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: AlexanderMartin on July 24, 2016, 10:58:28 PM
Hah, the little things will always get you.
I'm gonna have Magnepan Tympani's, a Magnavox Imperial, EH Scott 510 (don't tell anyone  ;) ) RCA 6-Rf-9, RCA table record player, Crosley Prestotune 11, and a magnavox extension speaker/record cabinet all in one 11x11 room. Is it optimal? No. Is it awesome? Hell yeah. That's the most important part of all this, having fun and doing great work.
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Magnavoxland on July 26, 2016, 02:45:22 PM
Well, ladies and gentlemen, after about pulling my hair out trying to fix this changer, I finally got it done last night.  I can now proclaim this fabulous RCA Victor record player finished.  It is undoubtedly the best sounding RCA console I've ever heard.

I had serious issues with the reject mechanism.  I had reinstalled a part incorrectly because a spring was missing.  Someone had worked on this changer previously, and really gummed it up with old grease.  I'd bet I had the changer in and out of the cabinet 30 times.  I'd get something fixed, then another problem would rear its ugly head.  Thank goodness I finally got it fixed last night. 

Now, let there always be "liftoff."  Get the launch pads ready.   :)
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Consoleman on July 27, 2016, 01:30:55 PM
Looking forward to the Youtube video!
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Magnavoxland on August 06, 2016, 12:04:01 AM
Looking forward to the Youtube video!
I just got a new camera that takes HD videos, so a video of this RCA is due to premiere soon.
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Magnavoxland on August 06, 2016, 05:08:31 PM
Here's a video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J1-eQljtWM
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Magnavoxland on August 06, 2016, 06:45:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYuqV0JfaNc
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: garrardfisher on August 06, 2016, 08:35:21 PM
Love the selection Larry!
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Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: picard on August 06, 2016, 09:10:39 PM
That looks like something you would see in a museum . So nice
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Post by: M.Yu on August 10, 2016, 04:07:20 PM
Wow, what a beauty! That amp is monster! What is in those rocket satellite speakers, big RCA ovals?

Super find! 
Title: Re: And We Have Lift-Off
Post by: Magnavoxland on August 10, 2016, 04:49:25 PM
Each satellite speaker has a 5x7 oval mid range and a 3 1/2 inch tweeter.