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Tube Consoles / 1959 Continental (Restoration)
« : March 15, 2021, 09:02:51 PM »
Hello, I plan on lacquer I am researching it now.  So not sure exactly what sheen to do. Rudd paint is local, Mohawk if i mail order it. I like the idea of shellac to the interior.  i also want to repaint the light peach colored paint around the record player. Want to try and clean the speaker cloth with a upholstery /carpet type vacuum cleaner. (I know a guy)
   Right now i am disassembling it bagging and tagging the screws. Getting the amp and tuner out. I noticed a couple of the paper labels were missing on the amp i plan on glueing them on again. I want this to be a safer unit but like original. Hopefully it could be around another 60 years.    Aaron   

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Tube Consoles / 1959 Continental (Restoration)
« : March 06, 2021, 09:37:02 AM »
Hello, Its time for the 1959 Continental to get restored I would like to have it up and running by Christmas 2021. This one is going to be my most comprehensive one to date and its a mess.  Couple of things to note it seems to be complete and original only missing the badge in the record compartment.  Its kind of beat up with a fair amount of flea bites but too many to touch up so it will require refinishing that i will try to do. Stay tuned for that debacle!
  I am sending the amp and tuner to Sam at Soundaudio repair in Olympia WA. He has done the two other consoles the amp175 and the amp185  in both st208's i have. He added a fuse and isolated the chassis grounds for safety also a 10' 3 prong cord to it so it can reach the outlets.   The same for this chassis which is a AMP 182 AA. I understand this is a very early stereo chassis  being 232 823   first week of June 1958. I have decided that this is going to get a balance control since it has a external speaker. I have researched this and found its best to use a custom circuit to do this as the balance used on the chassis achieves its function in not the best way. I hope Sam will do this. Then i will need to find a discreet place to put it. 
  Removing the amp i noticed there was a couple speaker selecter switches added to this. Why? Probably for speakers in extra rooms. One in the original place and one on the other side of the record compartment and one wire tied in the harness. This is going to be my first wiring exercise and i plan on getting a original diagram and tracing it out removing all the extra wires. By the way i think this may have been a custom wiring job by the dealer. Why? Well the selector switch had the same knob and bezel as the original one on the other side.  here is a photo of the selector switch in the harness if you look closely   https://flic.kr/p/2kHur1u 
   The other thing about this is its from a home with a heavy smoker and its covered in nicotine. Sam is not going to like this one for that.  Thats it for now.  Aaron

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Tube Consoles / Trying a different approach to speaker upgrade
« : February 17, 2021, 09:40:26 PM »
Hello Chris, First question. If magnavox was making the sides of the stereo slightly mismatched why did they not put a balance knob on the console? In other words make the sound perfectly balanced from the factory then put a bit of imbalance in. Not saying it didn't work it just seems like a funny way to do something.  Thanks for the info on the tweeters  i will keep trying to work with them. To clarify i turned down the bass knob and the volume mid range is down on one side. Aaron 

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Console Tales / Re: 1958 Magnavox Stereorama adventure
« : February 17, 2021, 05:31:32 PM »
Yes, I started with the avatar console. which still is the nicest one to date 1ST208F it has the 175 amp and no MPX but i got one for it and plan on installing. Then i bought another similar console 2ST208F but its a year newer. It has a AMP 185  and came with the MPX unit. The continental still awaits restoration. The 58 CG is a long term project also. The 2 stereoramas followed me home (1ST203F) one had a AMP 175 and 2 15" woofers and i think i am giving it to my sister. The Imperial is a mess and am trying to decide if its salvageable. Aaron     

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Tube Consoles / Trying a different approach to speaker upgrade
« : February 17, 2021, 05:14:23 PM »
Hello  again, So put the CG speakers in, They are not a matched set as the CG uses a combination of speakers.  I would really like a good explanation as to why but thats a different subject.
 The bass does seem improved like more thump. But i have come to see that there is a thing that happens at about half volume the quality of sound goes away as it gets louder. Its not just the speakers either even though it is noticeably improved  I am now convinced that you need the bigger amp to be able to drive the bass speakers harder. Which makes sense as the systems with bigger amps get bigger heavier magnets. I plan on keeping the CG speakers in the 2st208 with the AMP 185 but this console needs some new mid range speakers as the 60 year old 5 x 7's are shot and the smaller 4" tweeters the cones are rock hard   . I still have some items to figure out like which amp to work on next.  Aaron   

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Tube Consoles / Trying a different approach to speaker upgrade
« : February 16, 2021, 04:59:33 PM »
Right on! i will put the 35 oz CG speakers right in and see how it works. Aaron
 

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Tube Consoles / Trying a different approach to speaker upgrade
« : February 15, 2021, 10:59:01 PM »
Hello all,  After trying to get a speaker/horn combo to work in the 2st208 with horrible results. I though that i could forget the horn and just replace the woofer. The 2st208 used the 2 oz magnet speakers @ 4 ohms i wonder if i could swap the 35 oz @4 ohms speaker would it work correctly? Do the stronger magnet speakers need different crossover capacitor values> thank you Aaron
 https://flic.kr/p/2kC6NWK
 https://flic.kr/p/2kC6NXw
 

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Wanted / Tuner/amp plug for the imperial
« : February 11, 2021, 11:36:03 PM »
Dang that worked so well i thought i would post a photo of the actual components. https://flic.kr/p/2kAW52k

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Wanted / Tuner/amp plug for the imperial
« : February 11, 2021, 11:30:20 PM »
Hello all. Determined from photos its a 8103 amp.  Here is a photo if it works. https://flic.kr/p/2kASrDo

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Wanted / Tuner/amp plug for the imperial
« : February 08, 2021, 07:44:27 PM »
Tried to send a photo just got this message.....       The attachments upload directory is not writable. Your attachment or avatar cannot be saved.     
Don't know if I did something wrong. 

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Console Tales / 1958 Magnavox Stereorama adventure
« : February 08, 2021, 06:54:23 PM »
Hello all. I saw a 1st 203 f stereorama on Portlands Facebook marketplace ad it was a gutted cabinet. I didn't buy it.  Of course a month later i see another 1st 203 f stereorama a hundred miles north of me. It was slow going in communication and it looked like the deal was falling through they just wanted too much money for it. The next week i was going to Portland 200 miles south. The day before i left for portland the stereorama north of me became available so i checked Facebook and the gutted portland cabinet was still there. I purchased it first as parts for the north Stereorama. Seeing it, it was an interesting piece its beat up with the amp removed but it was otherwise complete with turntable and trim. Two weeks later i went to Ferndale to pick up the other working stereorama. It's a complete version of the parts cabinet i purchased weeks before I noticed though it is missing the trim on the top slider door also the speaker switch and knob are broken. Looking at the parts cabinet both items are there. But an interesting thing is the speaker date code is the same, not close but actually the same 232 839.
     Couple of other things to note about the Stereorama.  Its a plastic printed finish, it is in a different shade of finish even though the model numbers (1st 203 f) are the same. ? its the smaller magnet speakers, smaller 175 amp and it had a peculiar front left woofer and a side right woofer. This last thing is a reason i wanted it as i have a left room corner for it. The only defect is the top edge has a scrape on it. Not sure what to do for that. I still like it though.  Aaron

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Wanted / Tuner/amp plug for the imperial
« : February 08, 2021, 05:01:50 PM »
Hello All. The Imperial has the tuner directly hardwired to the amp. It must have had a issue in the past and the repair was to eliminate the plug. I am sending it to Sam for recapping and whatever else it needs to run perfectly again so if anyone has a tuner amp plug male/female portions around let me know. Aaron

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Tube Consoles / Speaker/Horn conversion
« : January 11, 2021, 05:36:40 PM »
Hello. So i did the horn conversion and i have to say i was not impressed it didn't sound that great. I don't know why, i could have had the wiring in incorrectly i was just guessing on the crossovers  but it looked correct at the time. Anyways its been a while since then and i have the unit back at the shop.( another reason ) This is also a test to see if this will post even though i only see a blank button on the page. Hydro

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Tube Consoles / Re: Speaker/Horn conversion
« : October 30, 2020, 09:42:21 PM »
Hello people, computer is up again so sorry for the cryptic first post but i tried that with my phone and only a portion of it posted. Anyway on with the project. I wish i had more knowledge of what i am trying to do but i want to put a set of the later astro-sonic horns in my 59 st208 with the 175 - 185 Amp. The horns will replace the oval and round tweeters.  I purchased a couple of sets with the crossovers from eBay.  First set is 1968 astrosonic and the other set is imperial here is a photo of the speakers. I can get them mounted but i am wondering about the crossovers and if there is any modification needed to get the horns hooked up to a tube amp? Aaron 

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Wanted / Looking for a 59 continental badge
« : October 30, 2020, 09:14:40 PM »
Hello, Longshot but maybe someone has one, this badge is missing on my 59 continental. photo is one like it from the internet. Thank you Aaron 

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